Comments for With| one |Voice http://withonevoice.wordpress.com Where faith and love breed Unity (Romans 15:5-7) Thu, 15 Oct 2009 00:13:50 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 Comment on Spiritual Impact of Musical Worship by expreacherman http://withonevoice.wordpress.com/2009/10/12/spiritual-impact-of-musical-worship/#comment-2066 expreacherman Thu, 15 Oct 2009 00:13:50 +0000 http://withonevoice.wordpress.com/?p=298#comment-2066 Jared, Interesting post. I contend we are indeed in a battle -- for the souls of the lost -- those who know not our Savior Jesus Christ.. Some of our songs and hymns should be directed toward their understanding of God's immeasurable Grace, Mercy and Salvation, even preparing their minds to hear the Gospel, reasoning and pleading with them to trust the Savior, Jesus Christ. In Jesus Christ eternally, ExP(Jack) Jared,

Interesting post.

I contend we are indeed in a battle — for the souls of the lost — those who know not our Savior Jesus Christ..

Some of our songs and hymns should be directed toward their understanding of God’s immeasurable Grace, Mercy and Salvation, even preparing their minds to hear the Gospel, reasoning and pleading with them to trust the Savior, Jesus Christ.

In Jesus Christ eternally,

ExP(Jack)

]]> Comment on Spiritual Impact of Musical Worship by gangwish http://withonevoice.wordpress.com/2009/10/12/spiritual-impact-of-musical-worship/#comment-2065 gangwish Mon, 12 Oct 2009 20:56:31 +0000 http://withonevoice.wordpress.com/?p=298#comment-2065 i appreciate your blog, thanks for writing! i appreciate your blog, thanks for writing!

]]> Comment on Spiritual Impact of Musical Worship by Kemp http://withonevoice.wordpress.com/2009/10/12/spiritual-impact-of-musical-worship/#comment-2064 Kemp Mon, 12 Oct 2009 20:50:10 +0000 http://withonevoice.wordpress.com/?p=298#comment-2064 I really like the idea of worship songs as a battle cry. There's something very primal that rouses within me when I watch movies where men have a legitimate reason to sing before war. Framing worship gatherings in this light is an interesting shift. I really like the idea of worship songs as a battle cry. There’s something very primal that rouses within me when I watch movies where men have a legitimate reason to sing before war. Framing worship gatherings in this light is an interesting shift.

]]> Comment on The Traveling Worship Leader by Sara Scott http://withonevoice.wordpress.com/2007/05/07/the-traveling-worship-leader/#comment-2058 Sara Scott Mon, 17 Aug 2009 21:53:29 +0000 http://withonevoice.wordpress.com/2007/05/07/the-traveling-worship-leader/#comment-2058 I have to continuously check my heart and my motives time and time again. I am surrounded by friends who are brutally honest and keep me accountable to the best of their ability (your accountability can only be as good as you allow it to be). This has definitely kept me grounded and in reality. I have unfortunately been in many church services that felt more like concerts. I know the buzz word right now is "seeker friendly", but I think alot of times this results in a larger concern of luring people in and keeping their attention than inviting the Lord to be there and move and pointing to Him and Him alone instead of the lights and cool music and elements. It saddens me and wears me out. But I have been at a number of Christian concerts that were some of the most worshipful times I have ever experienced. They were simple, with very few lights and plain white words on a black background.....not too many bells and whistles. It seems that whether its a Sunday gathering of 1500 people, or a concert of 300, what matters is what the focus is. Is it Jesus Christ, or is it something else? However, we are not responsible to carry the burden of how other people choose to engage with God and respond to His Holy Spirit. I hear so often from people "I don't like the music" or "The words on the screen came up late" or "Why can't you do music by this band more?" or "It was more like a concert than worship". People have to choose on their own to worship God and sing His praises no matter what. I think alot of Pastors underestimate the learning and growing capabilites of their congregations by feeling they need to sugar coat or simplify or "hold their hand" and lead them literally through every moment of worship. "Stand up." Sit down." "Why aren't you guys singing?". I think it is important to lead and to teach a congregation about worship and to share scriptures with them that instruct us on acceptable and inacceptable ways of worship. But eventually the "babies" have to grow up and be responsible for growing and researching and learning on their own as well. They have to have that passion ignited in them by the Holy Spirit, and we can't do it for them, only God can. I have to continuously check my heart and my motives time and time again. I am surrounded by friends who are brutally honest and keep me accountable to the best of their ability (your accountability can only be as good as you allow it to be). This has definitely kept me grounded and in reality.
I have unfortunately been in many church services that felt more like concerts. I know the buzz word right now is “seeker friendly”, but I think alot of times this results in a larger concern of luring people in and keeping their attention than inviting the Lord to be there and move and pointing to Him and Him alone instead of the lights and cool music and elements. It saddens me and wears me out. But I have been at a number of Christian concerts that were some of the most worshipful times I have ever experienced. They were simple, with very few lights and plain white words on a black background…..not too many bells and whistles. It seems that whether its a Sunday gathering of 1500 people, or a concert of 300, what matters is what the focus is. Is it Jesus Christ, or is it something else?
However, we are not responsible to carry the burden of how other people choose to engage with God and respond to His Holy Spirit. I hear so often from people “I don’t like the music” or “The words on the screen came up late” or “Why can’t you do music by this band more?” or “It was more like a concert than worship”. People have to choose on their own to worship God and sing His praises no matter what. I think alot of Pastors underestimate the learning and growing capabilites of their congregations by feeling they need to sugar coat or simplify or “hold their hand” and lead them literally through every moment of worship. “Stand up.” Sit down.” “Why aren’t you guys singing?”. I think it is important to lead and to teach a congregation about worship and to share scriptures with them that instruct us on acceptable and inacceptable ways of worship. But eventually the “babies” have to grow up and be responsible for growing and researching and learning on their own as well. They have to have that passion ignited in them by the Holy Spirit, and we can’t do it for them, only God can.

]]> Comment on The Traveling Worship Leader by Jared http://withonevoice.wordpress.com/2007/05/07/the-traveling-worship-leader/#comment-2056 Jared Thu, 06 Aug 2009 18:02:21 +0000 http://withonevoice.wordpress.com/2007/05/07/the-traveling-worship-leader/#comment-2056 Sara, I agree that it a certain capacity it is something that is needed. For a while I filled in for churches that were in between worship leaders. Personally I found that it only awoke in my a desire to deeply connect with the people, and spend time and effort getting to know them and their church. So I know that serving in that capacity is not for me. But I now value those who are able and willing to sacrifice their time and gifts in this way to a much greater degree. I still feel a measure of concern about the motivation of some. But I also think that testing your heart is something that all worship leaders should do. What are your thoughts on the difference between a concert and a corporate worship gathering? Sara,

I agree that it a certain capacity it is something that is needed. For a while I filled in for churches that were in between worship leaders. Personally I found that it only awoke in my a desire to deeply connect with the people, and spend time and effort getting to know them and their church. So I know that serving in that capacity is not for me.

But I now value those who are able and willing to sacrifice their time and gifts in this way to a much greater degree.

I still feel a measure of concern about the motivation of some. But I also think that testing your heart is something that all worship leaders should do.

What are your thoughts on the difference between a concert and a corporate worship gathering?

]]> Comment on The Traveling Worship Leader by Sara Scott http://withonevoice.wordpress.com/2007/05/07/the-traveling-worship-leader/#comment-2055 Sara Scott Thu, 06 Aug 2009 17:32:25 +0000 http://withonevoice.wordpress.com/2007/05/07/the-traveling-worship-leader/#comment-2055 I am a traveling worship leader. I think you have some great points/concerns. I think it comes down to the calling of each individual person. Some are made for this, some are made for that. I love helping out churches who don't have a full time person yet, or relieving a worship pastor who is burned out or on vacation. I love the connection that takes place with other churches. And it fulfills dreams and passions that God has placed in me to travel and meet new people and lead people in worship with music and song. I think someone who tries it and is not made for it would find out real quick! It can be taxing, but so rewarding. I am a traveling worship leader. I think you have some great points/concerns. I think it comes down to the calling of each individual person. Some are made for this, some are made for that. I love helping out churches who don’t have a full time person yet, or relieving a worship pastor who is burned out or on vacation. I love the connection that takes place with other churches. And it fulfills dreams and passions that God has placed in me to travel and meet new people and lead people in worship with music and song. I think someone who tries it and is not made for it would find out real quick! It can be taxing, but so rewarding.

]]> Comment on Welcome by I’m Honored to Participate « Vibrance! http://withonevoice.wordpress.com/2009/07/31/welcome/#comment-2053 I’m Honored to Participate « Vibrance! Tue, 04 Aug 2009 13:54:14 +0000 http://withonevoice.wordpress.com/?p=251#comment-2053 [...] son Jared has revamped his blog, With | One | Voice with an admirable purpose and attainable objectives as it relates to worship ministry.  He’s [...] [...] son Jared has revamped his blog, With | One | Voice with an admirable purpose and attainable objectives as it relates to worship ministry.  He’s [...]

]]> Comment on |worship pastor | worship leader | lead worshiper| by Phil http://withonevoice.wordpress.com/2008/10/24/worship-pastor-worship-leader-lead-worshiper/#comment-2052 Phil Tue, 04 Aug 2009 13:41:04 +0000 http://withonevoice.wordpress.com/?p=116#comment-2052 This is good food for thought. Some might think "oh, just semantics" at first pass, but you put your finger on some key considerations here. Glad you unwrapped these concepts ... we'll do well to consider who and what we are, recognizing the role may change. For example, I'm substituting as our church's worship leader in Wisconsin this Sunday. In a few weeks, however, I'll become the worship pastor of a church in Nebraska. For me, being a worship pastor, the last of the three, is my preference. It's challenging but incredibly rewarding - and I love to talk about it, of course. Phil This is good food for thought. Some might think “oh, just semantics” at first pass, but you put your finger on some key considerations here.

Glad you unwrapped these concepts … we’ll do well to consider who and what we are, recognizing the role may change. For example, I’m substituting as our church’s worship leader in Wisconsin this Sunday. In a few weeks, however, I’ll become the worship pastor of a church in Nebraska.

For me, being a worship pastor, the last of the three, is my preference. It’s challenging but incredibly rewarding – and I love to talk about it, of course.

Phil

]]> Comment on ||the weight of worship|| by Jon http://withonevoice.wordpress.com/2009/07/11/the-weight-of-worship/#comment-2051 Jon Fri, 31 Jul 2009 20:43:37 +0000 http://withonevoice.wordpress.com/?p=189#comment-2051 Well said. Well said.

]]> Comment on Apprenticeship | by Jared http://withonevoice.wordpress.com/2009/05/09/apprenticeship/#comment-2041 Jared Wed, 20 May 2009 03:10:24 +0000 http://withonevoice.wordpress.com/?p=172#comment-2041 Yes Kate you can add me to your blogroll, and I'm am doing great we need to catch up. Yes Kate you can add me to your blogroll, and I’m am doing great we need to catch up.

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